Are you finding that most PC based DVR sales are going down? It seems that consumers as a whole are requesting more and more stand alone type DVRs. I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion on this.

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Valid points. The funny thing is that everyone started going towards stand alones and now the industry is pushing PC based systems again. Why? Becuase they are pushing IP cameras. IP systems need the resources of a PC to work with megapixel and VGA quality cameras. The realabilty of the dvr has not changed but it's now considered the future and the must have technology. Its so stupid. Really. The marketing is masive that it's changing peopes mindsets and they don't even know why.

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I think standalones where all the rave for two to three years - until the first batch needed repairs and maintenance. having to replace a system because the PSU blew --- would raise eyebrows. Repair ability of the PC based systems for large corps with IT personnel must make pc based systems a far better option in the long run.

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I’ve been in the industry for nearly two years and have to say that I’m a bit partial to the stand alone systems, just for the main fact that it’s a stand alone. There’s a lot to be said for a stable system that just does its job.

However, I strongly believe that the stand alone DVR has its days numbered. With NVR’s usability and stability coming ever closer and increasing features, the NVR systems will start gaining on the analogue systems. It’s just a matter of time and the right product.

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Yes that has been the standard belief for some time.

I think we missed that the DVR manufacturers are themselves not sitting by idly --- they have responded with Hybdrids, Digital Conversion, CMS, and analytics and now they are making waves with HDcctv!

I wouldn't write off the DVR quite yet!

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I was working with Pelco DX8100, which are basically same PC inside. Most problem with "going down"..
As for me, it depends what is "going down" - power supply of software? THere are a lot of solutions for it. I will be more than happy if I can help.
Regards

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Of course, SA DVR is easiest way to please small customers and are getting more and more cheaper. But big projects where we need more then 50 cameras, PC based DVR is preferable. The only thing we need is expertise in installing various DVR cards in one PC. Once we instal DVR Cards perfectly, then there is no need to worry. Generally, such PC is dedicated one, there is hardly any fear of corruption in windows programs.

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Why would you say IP is preferrable in big projects? Would you say a casino is a big project?

Well i could show you a number of casino security managers that don't agree with those sentiments on IP.

(1) IP reduces security control by expanding access, and entry points.......
(2) IP Light Sensitivity is poor
(3) IP Frame Rates are poor --- especially for Casino's where Real Time is the order of the day.
(4) IP has terrible lag/latency with PTZ or other input devices.
(5) IP Creates reliability issues with storage when network downtime is considered.
(6) IP increases Bandiwth costs
(7) IP requires fork lift upgrades for the 90% of consumers who already have legacy systems.
(8) IP demands additional learning curves for security personnel, or security learning curve for IT personell.
(9) IP is expensive

Now I fully agree that IP is a good way to expand surveillance across large areas, and IP has many applications.......But IP is not the Only solution for big projects over 50 cameras!

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No Not at all totally wrong if considering INDIA in this, if i tell you the fact that now India developing towards the Hybrid system including both nON-Ip as well as IP, in Hybrid they also have DVR cards in nvr along with other IP camrea's and they manange there previously installed NON-IP system with present IP system through a single Central Manangement system having a 3rd party software. as Hybrid system is cheaper with the best. See at www.ipcctv.webnode.com
and also leave feedback there what you think about it.

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